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Started by Moschops on Sep 18, 2020 12:40:23 PM
Employment law question re redundancy

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Moschops - 18 Sep 2020 12:40:26 (#1 of 11)

I was working for a company for several years as a contractor, and moved to being a permanent employee when offered a 'switch or leave' choice earlier this year. In the last month the company have announced a redundancy program, and I (along with all other members of my team - who are seen by the employer as interchangeable resources with a broadly similar skill set) am deemed to be at risk (at the time of writing we don't know exactly what the headcount reduction will be, but I'm guessing 1-4 in a team of 8).

When I switched from being contract to permanent though, I was hired as a specific resource for a specific (fairly high profile) project, and I have a different cost centre from the rest of my teammates. Speaking to the project sponsor, it is clear the project is continuing for now, so I'm not sure where that leaves me. Given that the role I was hired for is safe going forwards (for now), does that mean I too should be? Or are the company within their rights to make me reapply for this role (and presumably, any other members of my team selected for redundancy would also be welcome to apply)?

raymie - 18 Sep 2020 12:42:23 (#2 of 11)

can they redeploy some of their other staff to do your job?

Moschops - 18 Sep 2020 12:44:17 (#3 of 11)

There is no reason why any of my team mates couldn't do the role (I doubt anyone from outside our team could do it), but because they want a dedicated resource, I don't think they'd be able to give it to someone to do in addition to their other work (but I dunno, no one knows what the future work plans are)

Moschops - 18 Sep 2020 12:45:55 (#4 of 11)

The point of contention (for me) is that I was hired to a specific role, and that role is not being made redundant. But I don't know whether that obliges them to keep going with employing me.

crabbyoldbat - 18 Sep 2020 13:05:31 (#5 of 11)

If that role is one of several basically the same, I expect they're justified in saying 'we had 10 volestranglers at level 1, now we just need 5 - fight it out', regardless of who was hired for what project.

Cordelia - 18 Sep 2020 13:11:48 (#6 of 11)

If your specific role is not being made redundant, and this has been confirmed, then you should be safe.

But they can pool different roles together as a group to be selected from, if the roles are seen as similar enough or there are duplications of effort within the group, in which case you would be part of the pool being selected for redundancy.

I think you have a call to make between asking for clarification, and running the risk that asking for clarification will make them realise they should have included your role from the start.

However if they do plan to put your role at risk of redundancy then they must let you know specifically, in writing. Not just as part of a group-wide email.

Moschops - 18 Sep 2020 13:13:00 (#7 of 11)

Thanks all, will bear that in mind.

crabbyoldbat - 18 Sep 2020 13:28:43 (#8 of 11)

I'd take notice of what Cordelia says - she's staff rep in a current redundancy process, so will have boned up recently

Moschops - 18 Sep 2020 13:31:22 (#9 of 11)

I'm gonna bring up the question with employer when the individual consultation process happens I think.

NotNixerNoMore - 23 Sep 2020 18:08:03 (#10 of 11)

What they said. My company notified those in roles at risk and then cooked up a couple of new roles that were amalgamations of the existing ones and got people to apply for them. Some were left without anything they could apply for.

Have you been notified that your role is at risk?

Moschops - 24 Sep 2020 09:34:25 (#11 of 11)

I am a) a member of a certain team (where all roles except the team lead are at risk) but also b) specifically the allocated resource for a particular (govt funded) project (the role I was actually hired for, which has a different cost centre, and which will be continuing after the redundancies have been made)

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